Ben: But the Canadian and US governments could take accountability for their support of Cameron. Sarah Anne Johnson: I imagine this is very difficult for his family. For years, the patients of Dr. Ewen Cameron or, more accurately, the families of those patients have been trying to get compensation for the unthinkable experiments their loved ones were subjected to. And Camerons part of that. Ben: But we also asked about something else, that he was a little uncomfortable talking about: Orlikow vs. United States, the 1980s lawsuit that ended up giving $750,000 total to 8 of Camerons victims. It is at this juncture that he became interested with how he could effectively manipulate the brain to control and understand the processes of memory. Anyone with any appreciation of the complexity of the human mind would not expect that you could erase an adult mind and then add things back with this stupid psychic driving. Cleghorn immediately went and took a long, hard look at what Cameron had actually been doing in his little corner of the university, and he was pretty shocked. In 1963, the CIA published the Kubark Counterintelligence Interrogation manual, and that's exactly what it sounds like guidelines on how to get people to talk. Amory: Duncan also has an easy, quiet smile. In his analysis, culture and society played a crucial role in the ability for one to function according to the demands necessary for human survival. The victims and their lawyers want us to remember that this story isnt over. 5, p. 2227) As a result of the lawsuit, the CIA agreed to pay $750,000, the maximum allowed under U.S. law, to settle a case without conceding liability. Ben: When Amory and I spoke to Duncan Cameron about his dad, he also told us about his own work, as a lawyer. As time has worn on, its become the families of those victims who shoulder the burden. Psychiatry would play a disciplinary role. Marian believes all of this was a result of her mother going into the Allan. The title is The Understanding Man. Lake Placid in particular, and the northern Adirondacks in general, have lost suddenly, tragically, but in a sense, beautifully, probably their most distinguished citizen. Marian Cameron. And I recall going through them and *taking out* several papers that appeared to me to be identified or could be identified as dealing with a particular patient. John Marks: There must have been clinical documents. You can see out a window. "Madness: The Secret Mission for Mind Control and the People Who Paid the Price" an investigative series in 5 parts unravels the shocking history of CIA-funded mind-control experiments. And I feel for them for that. Maybe the people responsible are waiting for all of us to forget. She was left with permanent impairments: She was unable to recognize faces, had impaired spatial recognition, and lost a good portion of her memory. Cameron focused primarily on biological descriptive psychiatry and applied the British and European schools and models of the practice. It affected a lot of people. My recollection was that I wasn't able to provide him with much information that he didn't already have. That was just something we wanted to get clarification on. That was in December of 1959, and according to the lawsuit (via the Consumer Law Group), Cameron diagnosed Morrow as having "nervousness and tension." She said: "She wasn't able to talk to me about life and regular stuff. Duncan: And I've said Im unable to do that. Donald Hebb the psychiatrist who started the whole mess with his sensory deprivation experiments had even less kind things to say: "Cameron was irresponsible criminally stupid. Hebb submitted his findings to the CIA, and it ended up being just the beginning. [citation needed][21]. He actually has a smile. His father, grandfather and great-grandfather were all senior partners in the company. [citation needed]; if the greater population of Germany saw the atrocities of World War II, they would surely submit to a re-organized system of justice. They also asked him for clarification about what happened to his father's personal papers and patient records, and he replied, "Well, I didn't destroy the documents. "He was supposed to do wonders with people with depression or mental health issues." Amory: Theres a reason that all the photos of Ewen Cameron are from more than 50 years ago. Many spent this period of time in what he called the "sleep room," where they were drugged into a medically-induced coma that they were brought out of only to be given three meals a day and the occasional trip to the bathroom. Amory: Immortal Technique is rapping about it: Ben: But for those who have had to deal with the fallout of MK-ULTRA on a personal level, the fact that the program rarely gets discussed outside the realm of pop culture can feel discouraging. Marian Read: So for me, the importance of all of this is to get it out of the shadows of pulp fiction, you know Amory: This is Marian Read. Donald Ewen Cameron was born in Bridge of Allan, Scotland, the oldest son of a Presbyterian minister. Heres John Marks again. Typically, I would show up there and, if it was a Friday, ask if I could have a lift down to Lake Placid. [28] His work was inspired and paralleled by the psychiatrist William Sargant, who was also involved with the intelligence services and experimented extensively on his patients without their consent, causing similar long-term damage. Amory: Hey, Dad, let's get out of here!, Duncan: I can remember doing that several times. He studied Medicine at the University of Glasgow and obtained his degree in 1924. . It was the start of a series of experiments backed by the British, the Americans, and the Canadians, and they wanted to know what prolonged sensory deprivation actually did to a person. His support of Charles Edward Stuart was instrumental in the Jacobite Rising of 1745 Lochiel and the Jacobite cause That right there is getting into some shady territory, but the promise of a $10,000 grant the equivalent of just over $100,000 today had to be pretty tempting. Instead of being considered for the fellowship, the neurologist was admitted to his Allan Memorial Institute, diagnosed with schizophrenia, and given such a heavy dose of barbiturates that it triggered an allergic reaction and she suffered from a prolonged loss of oxygen to the brain. We put this to Harvey Weinstein, the psychiatrist we heard from earlier, whose father was a patient at the Allan. Duncan: Well, I think that I would feel sad about that. The idea was to first "depattern" the person in question. Dr. Ewen Cameron was an undeniably fascinating figure, and as horrible as his experiments were, the way people continued to talk about him was even more telling. Amory: Ben and I are in an apartment in Washington D.C. thats bursting with morning light and books, and were flipping through some of our hosts old family photos. What Hebb and Cameron both have in common is their contribution in establishing the scientific foundation for CIAs two-stage psychological torture method. And we would take off. Amory: You're welcome to pull it out now. That could be heightened with various drugs, eventually was replaced by positive messages, and the so-called "psychic driving" would continue. He published a book called Remembering[18] and extended psychiatric links to human biology. She was a former captain of the Scottish field hockey team, a competitive tennis player,[11] and lecturer in mathematics at the University of Glasgow. Research genealogy for Donald Ewen Cameron of Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, USA, as well as other members of the Cameron family, on Ancestry. Amory: But, Camerons extreme measures didnt result in a Nobel Prize or any mental health breakthroughs, which is why Harvey finds a certain poetry in his untimely death. While more is known about the experiments of Dr. Ewen Cameron than about some of the other MKUltra projects, there's still a lot of information missing. He demanded that political systems be watched, and that German people needed to be monitored due to their "personality type", which he claimed results in the conditions that give rise to the dictatorial power of an authoritarian overlord. After his mother confirmed that yes, there were 12 boxes of papers that her sons both lawyers said she probably shouldn't share, Duncan revealed that he had gone through and taken out "several papers" that identified "a particular patient." Ben: As for the CIAs MK-ULTRA program itself, it never had an official end date. He wanted to know if it was possible to wipe a person's mind and reinstall a new personality. Donald Ewen Cameron was born in Bridge of Allen, a small town in Scotland, on December 24, 1901. Two of my sons are lawyers and they say it isnt a good idea.. And that seemed to us to be a highly questionable action for someone to take. In other words, torture. There are a few ways to reach us: This content was originally created for audio. It's safe to say that the exact opposite happened. Ben: Hebb did an interview with a film producer in the 1980s, saying, quote, Cameron was irresponsible criminally stupid. But none of us trained in psychiatry. They had four children; a daughter and three sons. [14] Hess later confessed that he had faked the amnesia. And here he is with me many years ago. There is no incontinence, there is no mutism, and we are continuing this intense treatment of her until we get complete depatterning.". And there some of them were high risk ones. Ben: But do you even though you had nothing to do with it do you have any feelings of sadness about those folks and what they've gone through? For Cameron, the traits were contagions and anyone affected by the societal, cultural or personality forms would themselves be infected. He had a Mercedes. Ben: Even though Cameron never gave the CIA the keys to control peoples minds, he did give them the tools to break peoples minds down experimental drugs, recordings on loop, sensory deprivation. Ben: Her dad couldnt afford childcare, so soon after Marians mother went into the Allan, social services took Marian and her two younger brothers away because there was no parent to take care of them. Very different. Those with anxieties or insecurities and who had trouble with the state of the world were labelled as "the weak"; in Cameron's analysis, they could not cope with life and had to be isolated from society by "the strong". And you see this actual physical manual on how to break down the human mind. They had 11 children: Allan Francis Cameron, John Donald Cameron and 9 other children. It describes various personalities that he believed were of marked danger to all members of society. What started as short-term depression before the Allan, morphed into chronic depression, as well as diagnosed schizophrenia and bipolar disorder afterwards. . Ewen passed away on month day 1915, at age 84 at death place. We were unable to subscribe you to WBUR Today. He did and he got it. Duncan: Well, that's a big subject. The CBC says the CIA recruited Dr. Ewen Cameron a few years into MKUltra, using the Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology to approach Cameron and tell him that he really, really needed to apply for one of their grants. That was the case for people like Phyllis Goldberg. Amory: This is a hard reality for the family that Ewen Cameron left behind. It petered out in the early 60s as the programs director, Sidney Gottlieb, came to a realization. There was also Donald Hebb, who ran McGills psychology department at the time Cameron was running its psychiatry department. Deze informatie is onderdeel van Families Klein, Ree, de Breed en de Vries van Terschelling van Marthan Klein op Genealogie Online. And they found his work next to worthless. He saw no reason why psychiatry should be any different. Canada. Cameron never got his Nobel Prize in fact, he died not long after leaving Allan Memorial Institute. The National Post reports that in 1992, 77 of Cameron's patients were awarded an ex gratia settlement of $100,000, and that's all well and good, but claims made by more than 250 other people were rejected for various reasons. Shes a member of SAAGA, or Survivors Allied Against Government Abuse. Charles Tanny was a former patient of Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron at the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal in 1957. These experiments were typically carried out on patients who had entered the Institute for minor problems such as anxiety disorders and postnatal depression; many were permanently debilitated after these treatments. A Canadian government dismissed the CIAs role as a side issue or red herring; Ottawas Justice Department denied legal responsibility, offering each victim a nugatory $20,000 nuisance payment. Duncan: No, he had some peculiar hobb-- he loved science fiction. He first solved the problem by wiring the speakers into football helmets and locking them onto patients' heads, but that ended up being not ideal. Advancing Voluntary, Informed Consent to Medical Intervention, Cameron was an internationally prominent psychiatrist who developed torture techniques on his involuntary hospitalized patients mostly women. Their diagnosis was amnesia and hysteria, per a short commentary in the Journal of the American Medical Association. 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