The ending to the play speaks wonders to Noras narcissistic character. In the letter, Marcus also sets circumstances under which his wife can return to his home.But at the end, I don't think they have any right to say that they are real men. Women in the society at this time could not live without a husband, unless they were a widow. Both men dominate over their wives and both men want their wives to come back, but the reader/watcher can see that Torvald truly does care for Nora, while it just seems to me that Marcus only has a wife for the purpose of having someone to serve him. For that reason her last deed was viewed by her husband as insane rather than a strong, protest statement against the norm of the time.Therefore, Tuft compares Nora's character to Oedipus who also repressed the fact that he was the one who murdered the king/his father and married the queen/his own mother till it could no longer be hidden. I think the first difference is that Marcus is a lot more demanding and more firm in what he wants. But to tie it with narcissism seem over the top and extreme? Though at the first glance it is hidden from view once you read it again you will see it more clearly. Nora needs to be seen as narcissistic, it describes her complete involvement in ever act and every scene in the play. His tone of the letter comes off as authoritative, egotistic, extremely critical, threatening and domineering. (As stated by Kathleen) In the first two sentences he starts off the letter by, You have sinned greatly- and maybe I too; but this much is certain: Adam sinned after Eve has already sinned. His tone suggests that Marcus is simply giving his wife the option to return home, but doesn't fully care whether she does or not.There are few moments in the letter where Marcus actually does take some responsibility for their separation. The only one thing I would say deems Nora a narcissist above all else is her departure in the end. Her job is to serve his every whim. He thought how a good climber like him could fall. She also had a preoccupation with an ideal love story and when that kove story did not play out in the end, she left. She also shows that she is a narcissist when she flaunts her money in front of Mrs.Linde. He is verbally abusing her to the point until she is broken down and reduced to nothing. I get the feeling that Nora just wanted to be happy, once she found out that she really wasn't, by the end of the play.I don't disagree with Nora being narcissistic but I want to think that she is something more than just narcissistic. Either way she looses. Yet I read, and read again your charming letters, and they serve me, in some faint degree as a substitute for the company and conversation of the writer. [3] His longing for her during their war-enforced separation led him to write that he wanted to see her think. Tuft attempts to visualize Nora as something different than what many before her claimed that she seems to be. ^O2H-dYW!mcg_@m {GS;KWHxn;'x!\^H5)Z8Be ,?=&4^8 .U-pUI/. It matches up to one of the behaviors in the list. WebThe colonel tried to shoot him down before he left the plantation and promised to shoot him the next time he saw him. Instead Nora did not even notice it, and failed to realize that her friend was conflicted in a love once lost. Just by reading his letter to her, it seems that Marcus holds all the power in the household. Nora realizing that her so-called 'husband' Torvald was only making her stay by his side trough the use of money. But as a parent, it was her duty to stay for the children and to care for them. WebSeveral other gentlemen and ladies tried it, but it was quite inactive in their hands. This is again no way or form standing up for her rights but giving into her selfish desires and trying to "fix" her life based on releasing herself from her environment. Even away from the marriage she does not have total freedom. When his wife warned him the first time, father was really astonished. He asks the man to explain Hester's crime. Her departure is also on very short notice, which would make one think that Helmer's reaction would be one of great surprise and anger. WebIn the 1830s, John Downe wrote a letter to his wife in hopes of convincing her to join him in the United States. However, I believe that she acts like this on the surface in order to hide her insecurities about her own life. Their happiness seems to be completely parallel to their economic status or at least their comfort (or lack thereof) with their economic status. & this is apparent why i firmly believe that in those times no one was truely happy and wives lived only to please there husbands and kids were just like a way to prove that you loved you husband, and the higher number the more you loved them. Life choices are definitely influenced by money, especially in a world where money is more necessary to life than oxygen. He seems to play more of the submissive role in the marriage. She sees herself as the center of the universe, and everyone should cater to her every whim. I understand that at that time women played the housewife role; taking care of the household, but her approach to doing things was very manipulative. Throughout A Dolls House the character of Nora gets the attention thrown on her more and more. Life is all about compromise. Marcus knows that will never bring her true happiness, but he himself must always feel secure. The primary points of the letters from Abigail Adams to her husband John reveal that, in all likelihood, the country elected the wrong half of this letter Nora is in a similar situation. Marcus is much more in control than Torvald was. He does tell her that she does not really have any choice but to come home. She makes her life decisions knowing it will benefit her and make her happy. WebWritten by Timothy Sexton. I just think his approach to get her back was wrong because who would go back to someone who thinks after i am gone they can still own me. The similarities are Helmer and Marcus assumes authorities over their wives. What if she is actually the product of an egocentric society? I feel he treated her more as an object then his wife or a human being. I think that if Helmer were to write a letter to Nora, it would not be of the same framework as Marcus' letter. Although her excuse is that she did it to save her husband I think that she also had something to gain from that. It seems that Tuft's purpose in viewing Nora as narcissistic is to give her a reason to leave her husband and children to "search for herself" the way she did. Sometimes people need to get away from things to clear their head and think. I do not believe he understands the concept of a marriage. Ulrike did indeed have some compassion toward his wife, he at least loved her, regardless of how rash he acted towards her in a moment of animosity. centerpoint sniper 370 crossbow replacement parts. of course, she will speak as if she wished for Torvald to do well in his line of work and to be successful, but when he prospers, she does as well, effortlessly. Millions were infected. Torvald rewards his wife with jewelry, gifts and money but is unable to really love her. Trajan rose to prominence during the reign of emperor Domitian. WebThe Project Gutenberg EBook of The Principles of Psychology, Volume 1 (of 2), by William James This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere in the United States and most other par He practically owns everything including his wife, children and maids. They both, also, portray a sense of entitlement and superiority over their wives with regards to both the ways in which they refer to their wives, and their sets of expectations. In that time, as the letter shows, a wife did not have much say so in a relationship besides taking care of the children and running the household. To Nora when she confesses she no longer wants to be with him. He was very cocky as he was the only important person in the relationship and that he really did not care if they were together or not. Each women, Nora, Anne-Marie, and Mrs. Linde, does not a role besides taking care of children. WebSummary and Analysis Letter 3. Marcus's letter to his wife i found was very harsh towards his wife. But than again, sometimes people do not always want to be parents. In the Victorian era, men were the ones with the jobs and it was the woman's job to find a man with a good reputation and a good salary so they can continue their family legacy and live comfortably. :p*YGx)rCZmW*gb&uD#$k7@@$?%1$,'CQ Marcus, without his wife actions and is in need of her assistants. One, which is not to be left alone and no way to support her family and two, to go to Italy. Tuft's purpose in arguing that Nora be seen as narcissistic because Nora character cannot stand on her own. Tuft's veiw of Nora as a narcissit is not to far off in ,y opinion, at first glance it does not seem that way. Between 10 and 18 million people eventually died. When Nora wants to leave he tells her she is crazy and is pleaing with her to stay. He believes women need to live with a man in order to have necessities and a good reputation. ,W YXYk(\'z?^{)FrQ1%S,VIHdXG$oCe,9][ \7%{u2V](Z2YD`3njuX*W Marcus claims thats it is her stubbornness and ambitions that prevents them to be his wife again but this is why she doesnt want to be envied and this is why she is leaving.Significant similarities between Marcus and Torvald is the idea that the husband needs to be paid back for the things that he has done for his wife. She used her womanly seduction to get money from Torvold on a constant basis. As the letter implies, Ulrike had left home and children: the letter establishes conditions for her to return. That I can say is true because Nora did not have a job of her own other than tendingto the house and basically spending Torvald's money. Socit; Collections. I believe that Tuft's purpose in arguing that Nora be seen as narcissistic can be explained in that he believes that by Nora walking out on her husband and children and putting her own needs first, she epitomizes the characteristic of a narcissistic person. Nothing surprising for me here in this letter. This is the real reason behind his cruel and powerful words. I would look at her motive did Nora do all she did - just for herself? After reading this passage I believe that Marcus is a rather demeaning character, with an utterly drastic tone of bitterness. The truthfulness of that statement is debatable however instead of stating it once if at all, Nora repeats it as if her decisions had the power of God to determine life and death. The Marxist approach is very interesting. But apparently this is not enough and when he discovers a lie on her part and suspects that this is only the tip of the iceberg she leaves him and the kids slamming the door behind her. She's always talking about how her husband is now going to make so much money she will live worry-free. For example she was told not to eat some kind of treat by her husband as a way to take care of her but because she only thinks about pleasing herself she eats it any ways behind his back. The letter to Ulrike is not one that would convince me to come back home. On March 15, 44 B.C. Nora had responsibilitiesshe made a vow to her husband and she had 3 children. I mean look at Nora. Nora does display some traits of a narcissistic person because of her obsession with how much money she has, and because her appearance and status in society is very important to her. So reality is a women with a husband had job because she is cover by him but widows are able to get a job because they no husband to support them. In retrospect, Nora knew deep down for a while that she was not her own person, she was who her husband wanted her to be as a wife, and covered these feelings with treats and nice things until she finally was strong enough to come out about these concerns and realizes what is really important in life; herself. They are both similar because both of these men expect their wives to live day to day by their rules. Now, whether that's part of the Jewish practices or just Marcus himself, it does not seem like it is something similar to Nora and Torvald because if anyone was being subjected to someone else, Marcus' wife would be Torvald in relatiion to Nora. Ms. Linde was stuck taking care of her relatives. In fact, during the whole beginning of the letter, he states, "you, alone, carry the guilt of all the misfortune." Although his wife may not have been able to make someone of herself because of the time period, he makes sure to impliment a feeling of guilt and despise to some extent for his wife. Narcissistic -- means being in love with yourself and Tufts get this quite right. Hes not as powerful as he portrays himself to be. She abandons HER CHILDREN to do what she wants to do. Torvald Helmer is a bit more kind to Nora than Marcus is to Ulrike. She is very self-absorbed. Just because she left her husband she had no right. % Narcissism is characterized as someone who has a large sense of self-importance, preoccupied with fantasies of success, requires constant attention, indifferent to other peoples feelings, and takes advantage of others to get what they want. This comment has been removed by the author. The tone of Marcuss letter to his wife was having authority over Ulrike. She, however, is not given other duties. She needs to have her own life and live the way she wants to. Although Marcus and Torvald both see their wives as less than them, as well as dependent of them, the significant difference between then is that Marcus realizes this while Torvald doesn't. Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of Democratic Republic of the Congo, Brussels, January 26, 1960. Chillingworth lies that he's been held captive by Indians. Nora no longer wanted to be a wife nor mother, Nora only concern was herself. Contemporary audiences have different sensibilities than audiences from Ibsen's day. Tuft says Nora is narcissistic, and I think that is something we can all agree with. He only stated that the separation was both of their fault in the beginning, but then said, it was more his wife's fault. It is interesting to see how Marcus talks down to his wife, even going as far as giving her a list of orders. Though he does say that his behavior may have added fuel to the fire, he quickly reminds he that it was Eve who first ate the apple, not Adam. The Antonine Plague of 165 CE, a global pandemic with a mortality rate of between 2-3%, began with flu-like symptoms until it escalated and became gruesome and painfully fatal. There was no real similarity between Marcus and Torvald, the only thing I could say is that Marcus suggested to this wife if you need money she should ask her father, where Torvald would not allow Nora to accepted money from her father because Torvald was responsible for his wife financial needs. he is dictating to his wife in this letter as well. They were at once the lay face of the church, the spiritual heart of civic government, and the social kin who claimed the allegiance of peers and the obedience of subordinates. It's almost as if he is saying, "hey, I am doing my part, you agreed to do your part and you haven't. 19th century society was built on very strict Victorian values. And its expected since Adam sinned after Eve. His determination seemed to be winning success when, in 180, he died at his military headquarters, having just had Also, the itinerary he requested from her and the schedule that was enclosed with the letter both show me that he is a very demanding man and most likely a difficult person to be married to. When you decide to return (p. 1765) Considering his internally fragile state, he is not controlling her with words. His only concern is her contentment. In a Psychoanalytic Reading of Nora, Tufts argues that Nora is more of a narcissist individual rather than a victim of her husband's oppression. (BedFord 1765) However, as much as he blames his wife for the destruction of their family reputation, he does take some responsibility; it should be noted that the word "some" might be an overstatement. I cannot believe the arrogance he has when he expects her to return to him. It is filled with many demands and some teetering on insults. Principal condition set by Jourdan to return with his old master. Marcus focuses on the problems of his wife, instead of his own faults. As for the Marxist view of A Doll House, I do not agree that it was based on human realtionships "shaped by socioeconomic considerations." I beleive that Helmer would have wrote a letter to Nora demanding that he be given the chance to meet her challenge to get to know who she is and to be the man that she invisioned him to be. So without knowing further details about the case I reserve my further judgment. An argument that presents Nora as narcissistic is one of great interest, one which I had never considered before. Because he didn't take blame for her doesn't give her the right to leave because she is not standing up for her self she is being childish towards herself. The tone of Marcuss letter is very domineering not only to his wife but to the women population. Both,Nora and Oedipus, sadly, decided to keep denying the truth. Right away you can see he is the head of the household. I found Tuft's purpose was to show that what happens to Nora happens in real life as well. Nora especially. Only then would she be allowed to return to "my house"(Marcus's) not "their house". The only one could be that Torvald was harsh to Nora saying she was a child and he would have to take care of her. I do agree with the idea that Nora is narcissistic, in fact it hadn't even crossed my mind until I had read this article. But Marcus decided to blame his wife for his acting like what Eve did to Adam. You must treat them like him, instead of comprising a list of demands your wife will obey. Abandoning the family and kids were considered something very shameful and against any moral law of the time. If China is broken, it loses both its value and its appeal. This describes Nora to a tee. She constantly used people around her to get what she wanted. A friend less concerned about themselves or even slightly concerned about another would have recpgnized the intrest. Serving as a legatus legionis in Hispania Tarraconensis, in 89 Trajan supported Domitian against a revolt on the Rhine led by Antonius Saturninus. As Marcus was harsh in many ways, wanting it only his way. After Ulrike leaves Marcus, he writes his letter and sets reasonable wishes for her conduct once she returns, while Nora did not leave Torvald until the end of the play Torvald also demanded reasonable wishes for her. So, to remind you of what your obligations are, of what you signed onto, here's a copy of the contract I read to the Rabbi". Tufts wants the readers to realize that Nora is not illustrating any form of solidarity towards others. Freedom is anonymity and she expresses that when she leaves because she is going to be all alone in this world. %PDF-1.3 Nora is seen as a feminist heroin because she was brave enough to walk away from her oppressor, but what if she is the complete opposite of a hero? It is interesting to note that Marcus and Ulrike are Jewish and Torvald and Nora are Christian. In the beginning he says that she is the one that has sinned but so has he, he blames himself as well but the next thing he says completely contradicts that. I did not consider the character of the maid, Anne-Marie, who seems to be the most content of them all and is the lowest on the economic stratum. The tone of Marcus's letter is cold and harsh. In this letter from Marcus to his wife, Marcus has a very demanding tone-- he makes it seem that he has all the power, & something like its my way or the highway lady.Just like in "A Dolls House", both trovold and Mrcus bothe treat their wivies as poossesions. "Women in this society was not 'natural' but artifical, a role created by their relationship to the family and their subservience to men" (1768). However, walking out on your family has a great affect on many individuals. I don't think that the specific time made them act certain way. In Marcus letter to his wife, not one time did Marcus tell his wife that he loved her? Marcus's letter reminded me of someone who writes something to a person that left them, blaming everything on that person. In the letter he uses rhetorical strategies such as tone, diction and His acceptance of his "sin" is only as blame to his wife, as Adam blamed Eve for his sin. This page provides opportunities for students to contribute ideas, multi-media resources, written materials, analysis of literary critiques and even announcements that will amplify our responses to class readings, literary reviews and projects. delta baggage fees international 2022. You can not take care of others if you are not taking care of your own needs. Unlike Torvald, Marcus is trying to persuade his wife to come back for the huge guilt trip she has awaiting if she does come back.Marcus mentions that yes she should examine herself but then turns it around by saying that she needs to "determine if you are strong enough to conquer your false ambitions." The condition of ones marriage should come before the words of neighborhood gossipers. Nora likes this attention, she faces a number of dilemmas, but one can tell that she enjoys this interest. It seems that Marcus does not take much responsibility for their separation. These relationships are not like the marriages we are use to seeing, they are more like transactions and mergers, but as cities and industry grew in the 19th century the desire to contribute to society might have prompted these women [ Nora and Ulrike] to self discovery. He did not say hurtful things to her. In the letter that Columbus wrote to the King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, he explained why and how his voyage was a success. It's a formal letter addressed to someone who didn't hold up their end of the deal. Helmer is not the best man in the world but he is certainly more cleaver than this fellow, Marcus. WebWhy does Marcus trust HFM organizers, and follow their clues to real-world encounters with enemy teams, while he is highly suspicious of government operatives attempting to Divorce or separation meant ostracism; as Marcus writes, 'your husband, children, and He also says that they way she is acting is not right and that if she acts "correctly" that people will envy her. He is not making a command, but making his wishes known. However, in spite of his kindness, Torvald is insecure as well. Tuft feels that Nora is self absorbed because she leaves behind everything and thinks of herself first without thinking of any consequences on her departing. By seeing Nora as in this light, she seems less of a heroine feminist but as a flawed person. The difference between Helmer and Marcus is in Helmers case the control was not much emphasized as much as Marcus. children. WebDescribe the tone of Marcus's letter to his wife (with examples). WebMeghan ate those famous chicken tacos at her desk in London while reading Mrs. Obamas e-mails. But on further thought I decided just to cut off your wife and send it back to you because I have nothing to do with her. Their own acts lead to the tragic outcomes where in one case kids and husband were abounded and in another the queen has committed a suicide. It has an effect on my overall life which is somewhat hard to explain. Looking at the definition she provides for Narcissism it is easy to see these traits in Nora throughout the entire story not just when she decides to leave. WebIn Harry Trumans Dear Bess Letters, he conversed with his wife about his political decisions to a great extent. I believe that she is a woman who has lived in a home, contained by her husband and living in the rules of her society, which is, doing what your husband and nothing else. A woman in upper-class society of the time had few choices In particular in these tight economic times, the health care debate, and Twitterthe topic of Me and just Me does have some narcissist undertones in it and no one could blame her to leave if she was not getting what she felt she neededwants wrong with that? MM wants us to think she generously shared her wisdom (and her salsa) with the former First Lady, who needed her finger placed on the zeitgeist as MMand only Meghan!can do. She flirted shamefully with Dr. Rank, with no intention of ever showing him any real interest. Nora could of gone about handling these situations in different ways, but its as if she likes the change, she likes where her life is heading. 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