unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright, Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. the high notes with a beer sloshing in the stands But let me say, I was taken, back and forth on Sundays and it was not easy, but I was loved each place. creeks, two highways, two stepparents But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. Nothing, nothing is funny. No, question marks. And then I would say in terms of the sacred, it was always the natural world. Limn: Yeah. And it sounds like thunder? for the safety of others, for earth, We journalists, she wrote, "can summon outrage in five words or These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. Tippett: And then Joint Custody from The Hurting Kind. Many of us were having different experiences. And I was feeling very isolated. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. Limn: It is still the wind. until every part of it is run through with And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us . Definitely. It wasnt used as a tool. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. Its a prose poem. And I feel like its very interesting when you actually have to get away from it, because you can also do the other thing where you focus too much on the breath. And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. Many of us were having different experiences. And you also wrote about that, and you also wrote this essay. my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. We think were divided by issues, arguing about conflicting facts. The term "compassion" -- typically reserved for the saintly or the sappy -- has fallen out of touch with reality. On Being Studios's tracks [Unedited] Ocean Vuong with Krista Tippett by On Being Studios Limn: And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said, No. So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. Krista Tippett (2) Rsultats tris par. And I am so thrilled to have this conversation with Ada Limn to be part of our first season. Oh, definitely. Easy light storms in through the window, soft, edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels, nest rigged high in the maple. no hot gates, no house decayed. Limn: Yeah. Tippett: I guess maybe you had to quit doing that since you had this new job. Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. So you grew up in Sonoma, California, but my sense is that its not the land of Zinfandel and Pinot Noir that immediately comes to mind now when someone says Sonoma. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, enough of the will to go on and not go on or how, a certain light does a certain thing, enough, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking. So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. wind? So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. the ground and the feast is where I live now. I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. Krista Tippett (ne Weedman; born November 9, 1960) is an American journalist, author, and entrepreneur. And we all have this, our childhood stories. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. Oh, thank you. All year, Ive said, You know whats funny? Its got breath, its got all those spaces. I do think I enjoy it. Deeper truths and larger stories of ourselves as societies, as a planet, as humans, that at once complicate and enliven our capacity to live with dignity and joy and wholeness. For her voice of insistent honesty and wholeness and wisdom and joyfulness. Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. I cannot reverse it, the record Tippett: I love that. Who am I to live? Right? Krista Tippett founded and leads "The On Being Project," hosts the globally esteemed On Being public radio show and podcast, and curates the "Civil Conversat. No, really I was. And then you can also be like, Im a little anxious about this thing thats happening next week. Or all of these things, it makes room for all of those things. The people who gather around On Being are part of the generative narrative of our time. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, The great eye. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. writes the word lover in a note and Im strangely, excited for the word lover to come back. This definitely speaks to that. Yeah. "Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred." adrienne maree brown and others use many . And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. Yeah. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright. Limn: Yeah. But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full by the crane. [laughter] But I think you are a prodigy for growing older and wiser. Limn: Yeah. into an expansion, a heat. if we declared a clean night, if we stopped being terrified. In her Peabody-award winning public radio show and podcast, On Being, Krista Tippett provides a space for deep and meaningful conversations with profound thi. Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. I never go there very much anymore. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. We surface this as a companion for the frontiers we are all on just by virtue of being alive in this time. its like staring into an original Limn: Yeah, I had a moment where I hadnt realized how delighted I was to go about my world without my body. is a murderous light, so strong. and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. Starting Thursday, February 2: three months of soaring new On Being conversations, with an eye towards emergence. Limn: Not the Saddest Thing in the World, All day I feel some itchiness around the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. So Im hoping. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. Limn: Oh, definitely. And I think about that all the time. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. Okay. She is a former host of the poetry podcast, The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. Krista Tippett is Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and New York Times best-selling author. I think I trusted its unknowing and its mystery in a way that I distrusted maybe other forms of writing up until then. And its true. Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. and the world. You may also catch references to things seen and witnessed throughout the event including a stunning opening poem by our dear friend Maria Popova, composed of On Being show titles which you can take in fully by viewing the recorded celebration in its entirety on our YouTube channel. But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. So that even when youre talking about the natural world: we are of it not in it. I mean, I do right now. And isnt it strange that breathing is something that we have to get better at? My mother says, Oh yeah, you say that now.. Learn more at. So is his love and study of the farmer-poet Wendell Berry, whose audiobook The Need to Be Whole Nick just recorded. People will ask me a lot about my process and it is, like I said, silence. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. During her 20-plus years as host of public radio's "On Being" show which aired on some 400 stations across the country Krista Tippett and her beautifully varied slate of guests . But in the present era of tribalism, it feels like weve reached our collective limitations Again and again, we have escalated the conflict and snuffed the complexity out of the conversation.. Page 87. that thered be nothing left in you, like, until every part of it is run through with, days a little hazy with fever and waiting, for the water to stop shivering out of the. Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called Complicating the Narratives, which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. It wasnt used as a tool. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt. This means that I am in a reciprocal relationship with the natural world, not that it is my job to be the poet that goes and says, Tree, I will describe it to you. [audience laughs] I have a lot of poems that basically are that. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe. [laughter] But its true. Theres a lot of different People. As we turn the corner from pandemic, although we will not completely turn the corner, I just wanted to read something you wrote on Twitter, which was hilarious. Join these two friends and interpreters of the human condition for . But I think the biggest thing for me is to begin with silence. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. And together you kind of have this relationship. Which I hadnt had before. Kind of true. Tippett: Maybe that speaks for itself. I spoke with Ada Limn at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis. Tippett: And when you say I know one shouldnt take poems apart like this, but The thesis is the river. What does that mean? We have never been exiled. And is it okay for me to spend time looking at this tree? And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. This is a gift. And that reframing was really important to me. The Hearthland Foundation. And sometimes when youre going through it, you can kind of see the mono-crop of vineyards that its become. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. nest rigged high in the maple. would happen if we decided to survive more? I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. I think I enjoy getting older. Theres a lot of different People. I love that you do this. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. Ive been reading Ada Limn for years, and was so happy when she was named the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. I really love . You ever think you could cry so hard Before the koi were all eaten Sometimes youre, and so much of its. Tippett: It also says something about this time. Centuries of pleasure before us and after. Tippett: Right. We understand love as the most reliably transformative muscle of human wholeness, and we investigate the workings of love as public practice. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us, breath to breath and hour to hour, as much in who we are and how we are present as in whatever we do. of the kneeling and the rising and the looking Peabody Award-winning host Krista Tippett presents a live, in-person recording of the wildly popular On Being podcast, featuring guest speaker Isabel Wilkerson. And I think its in that category. The people who gather around On Being are part of the generative narrative of our time. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. We say, Oh, I want to write about this flower. And then we say, Why this flower? At human pace, they are enlivening the world that they can see and touch. how the wind shakes a tree in a storm Foundations 4: Calling and Wholeness On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture In the modern western world, vocation was equated with work. And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. It brings us back to something your grandmother was right about, for reasons she would never have imagined: you are what you eat. Yeah. Actually, thats in Bright Dead Things. some new constellations. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. Our conversations create openings. Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?, And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is?. Its the thing that keeps us alive. Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. Between. Tippett: I chose a couple of poems that you wrote again that kind of speak to this. And just as there are callings for a life, there are callings for our time. Poems all come to me differently. The Adventure of Civility. I think there are things we all learned also. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. has an unsung third stanza, something brutal It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. This conversation shines a light on an emerging ecosystem in our world over and against the drumbeat of what is fractured and breaking: working with the complex fullness of reality, and cultivating old and new ways of seeing, to move towards a transformative wholeness of living. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. No, to the rising tides. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. Good conflict. Technology and vitality. Tippett: Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. An accomplished journalist, author, and entrepreneur, she was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2014. The Osprey Foundation a catalyst for empowered, healthy, and fulfilled lives. Yeah, Ive got a lot of feelings moving through me. And it was an incredible treat to interview her before 1,000 people, packed together in a concert hall on a cold Minnesota night. letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and Singing is able to touch and join human beings in ways few other arts can. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? But the song didnt mean anything, just a call, to the field, something to get through before, the pummeling of youth. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said. Its so interesting because I feel like one of the things as you age, as an artist, as a human being, you start to rethink the stories that people have told you and start to wonder what was useful and what was not useful. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. Theres whole books about how to breathe. Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. Tippett: I also think aging is underrated. , and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. Im so excited for your tenure representing poetry and representing all of us, and Im excited that you have so many more years of aging and writing and getting wiser ahead, and we got to be here at this early stage. Theres whole books about how to breathe. The one that always misses where Im not. I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? Its a prose poem. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. Limn: Kind of true. in the ground, under the feast up above. So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. by being not a witness, This definitely speaks to that. This conversational nature of reality indeed, this drama of vitality is something we have all been shown, willing or unwilling, in these years. for all its gross tenderness, a joke told in a sunbeam, I am asking you to touch me. abundance? Okay, Im going to give you some choices. Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. [laughs] Oh my. , which was a couple of years before that, certainly pre-pandemic, in the before times, was the way you wrote, a way that you spoke of the same story of yourself. But you said I dont know, I just happened to be I saw you again today. A dream. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and the Art of Living by Krista Tippe at the best online prices at eBay! Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. Tippett: I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats [laughter]. the pummeling of youth. And it sounds like thunder? Where being at ease is not okay. Before the dogs chain. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. Bottlebrush trees attract Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). I have your books, and theres some, too. [laughter] Sometimes its just staring out the window. Limn: Yeah. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. We hold each other. The truth is, Ive never cared for the National Its a source of a spiritual thoughtfulness that runs through this conversation with Krista. The truth is, Ive never cared for the National, Anthem. Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. So I want to do two more, also from. [audience laughs] But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . No, question marks. For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. This is like a self-care poem. Also: Kristin Brogdon, Lindsey Siders, Brad Kern, John Marks, Emery Snow and the entire staff at both Northrop and the Ted Mann Concert Hall of the University of Minnesota. So its a very special place. Why not that weed? Our entire world is spent that way. Page 87. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. The listener wants to understand the humanity behind the words of the other, and patiently summons one's own best self and one's own best words and questions.". like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung Also because so much of whats been and again, its not just in the past, what has happened, has been happening below the level of consciousness in our bodies. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. And poetry, and poetry. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. as you said, to give instruction or answers, where to give answers would be to disrespect the gravity of the questions. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. And when you say I know one shouldnt take poems apart like this, but The thesis is the river. What does that mean? The science of awe. We inhabit a liminal time between what we thought we knew and what we cant quite yet see. [Laughter] I feel like I could hear that response, right? The wonder of biomimicry. into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit . Its repeating words. We can forget this. Henno Road, creek just below, And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? This is amazing. Krista Tippett, host of award-winning NPR program "On Being", and poet David Whyte discusses several of the life-sized concepts addressed in Tippet's book, _. This is like a self-care poem. My mother says, Oh yeah, you say that now.. So how to get out? Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. And the Q has the tail of a monkey, and weve forgotten this. We are located on Dakota land. Or, Im suffering, or Right. a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. Tippett: Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. [laughter] I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. Tippett: as you said, to give instruction or answers, where to give answers would be to disrespect the gravity of the questions. And shes animated by questions emerging from those loves and from the science she does which we scarcely know how to take seriously amidst so much demoralizing bad ecological news. is so bright and determined like a flame, I think grief is something that is very We have so much to grieve even as we have so much to walk towards. Subscribe to the live your best life newsletter Sign up for the oprah.com live your best life newsletter Get more stories like this delivered to your inbox Get updates on your favorite . This might be hard for some of you right here. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. Limn: I think its very dangerous not to have hope. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. Two families, two different of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising. enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high Krista Tippett is the creator and host of the On Being and Becoming Wise podcasts as well as curator of The Civil Conversations Project. I mean, thats how we read. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Poetry Unbound On Being Studios Becoming Wise On Being Studios This Movie Changed Me On Being Studios Creating Our Own Lives On Being Studios More ways to shop: Find an Apple Store or other retailer near you. Listen Download Transcript. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. 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